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Deathbane
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 Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject: Does God exist? |
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If there is a good God, why is there suffering? If there is a good God, why ain't everybody happy? If there is a good God, why do people die? Is God evil?
Most religions say that there is a higher power, often a God. The Christianity, my religion, sais that God is good and almighty... so why isn't the world good?
I belive in an higher power, something godly, though I think this power is neither good nor evil. Part because it fits well together with the Natural science, and because I dont belive in Randomness.
What do you think/belive in? Why?
I thought this thing would be alot longer...oh whatever that was what i wanted to say
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Lundis
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| Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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I think all supernatural things happen because of willpower and another unknown factor ^^
I've thought a lot about this but my head is empty atm.. (well not empty, but my thoughts are running in a circle, racing)
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Deathbane
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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the power of ones will is something i belive in too, but I don't think it's very strong. btw i found something sbout this on wiki
| Wikipedia wrote: | 1. God exists. (premise)
2. God is omnipotent and omniscient. (premise — or true by definition of the word "God")
3. God is all-benevolent. (premise — or true by definition)
4. All-benevolent beings are opposed to all evil. (premise — or true by definition)
5. All-benevolent beings who can eliminate evil will do so immediately when they become aware of it. (premise)
6. God is opposed to all evil. (conclusion from 3 and 4)
7. God can eliminate evil completely and immediately. (conclusion from 2)
1. Whatever the end result of suffering is, God can bring it about by ways that do not include suffering. (conclusion from 2)
2. God has no reason not to eliminate evil. (conclusion from 7.1)
3. God has no reason not to act immediately. (conclusion from 5)
8. God will eliminate evil completely and immediately. (conclusion from 6, 7.2 and 7.3)
9. Evil exists, has existed, and probably will always exist. (premise)
10. Items 8 and 9 are contradictory; therefore, one or more of the premises is false: either God does not exist, evil does not exist, or God is not simultaneously omnipotent, omniscient, and all-benevolent (i.e. God is omnipotent and omniscient but not all-benevolent, omnipotent and all-benevolent but not omniscient, or omniscient and all-benevolent but not omnipotent).
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Or simply: God is evil...
The whole arcticle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil
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Lundis
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| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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lol if it is like I say, evil ppl causes evil things to happen and there's a lot of evil etc etc..
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Deathbane
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yea, maybe you're right  I belive that willpower works e.g. if you decide you're gonna do something you can do it even if you normally wouldn't be able to ( run 10 km or something like that). I don't belive that you can decide that a bomb will blow up a train, I think you at least have to do it yourself.
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Lundis
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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I think this power is like everything else, i.e. some ppl are better at it than others ^^
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Frost
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| Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Kira is.... GOD lol nah well i dont believe in god etc no evidence that such would exist at all etc and such read that in bible its weird God dosnt seem to like failures and women etc lol like if some1 didnt believe god orderd some ppl to kill the un believers etc and such not so nice lol also Islams god is basicly the same etc heard theres rly crazy stuff in bible etc lol also americans seems bit crazy sometimes christians etc extreme stuff etc such and they want harry potter banned because it makes Witches look good or somethin (good as in non-evil) and such stuff also heard they complain bout star wars lol that star wars is satanic etc the reason is because theres somethin there called the force lol and they think that is evil etc
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Deathbane
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| Frost wrote: | | Kira is.... GOD lol nah well i dont believe in god etc no evidence that such would exist at all etc and such read that in bible its weird God dosnt seem to like failures and women etc lol like if some1 didnt believe god orderd some ppl to kill the un believers etc and such not so nice lol also Islams god is basicly the same etc heard theres rly crazy stuff in bible etc lol also americans seems bit crazy sometimes christians etc extreme stuff etc such and they want harry potter banned because it makes Witches look good or somethin (good as in non-evil) and such stuff also heard they complain bout star wars lol that star wars is satanic etc the reason is because theres somethin there called the force lol and they think that is evil etc |
The chance that Big bang (or whatever it was) would happen was about 1 of a billion, i don't belive that it was a happenstance. And actually the Christianity, Judaism and Islam have the same god, they're different religions because they see thing in different ways (I'm not entirely sure about this but 99%), also the bibel can be interpreted in a hudred ways. About americans, I saw something on youtube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE rofl, but that one must have been edited ALOT
EDIT: Lundis, please cast your vote
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Lundis
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Deathbane wrote: | | EDIT: Lundis, please cast your vote |
bah  I don't know what to pick...
Anyway.. I don't believe that big bang was the start of the universe, just that it was a milestone, caused by something else..
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Frost
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Deathbane wrote: | | Frost wrote: | | Kira is.... GOD lol nah well i dont believe in god etc no evidence that such would exist at all etc and such read that in bible its weird God dosnt seem to like failures and women etc lol like if some1 didnt believe god orderd some ppl to kill the un believers etc and such not so nice lol also Islams god is basicly the same etc heard theres rly crazy stuff in bible etc lol also americans seems bit crazy sometimes christians etc extreme stuff etc such and they want harry potter banned because it makes Witches look good or somethin (good as in non-evil) and such stuff also heard they complain bout star wars lol that star wars is satanic etc the reason is because theres somethin there called the force lol and they think that is evil etc |
The chance that Big bang (or whatever it was) would happen was about 1 of a billion, i don't belive that it was a happenstance. And actually the Christianity, Judaism and Islam have the same god, they're different religions because they see thing in different ways (I'm not entirely sure about this but 99%), also the bibel can be interpreted in a hudred ways. About americans, I saw something on youtube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE rofl, but that one must have been edited ALOT
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lol wtf :S :S typical american? lol well those were rly stupid lol nuclear France some couple said :S well invade france lol also ddint know anything lol lol how many sides does a triangle have lol that was very stupid if its true lol cant believe such stupid ppl exist ppl that go on first class like 6-7 year olds know much more than that etc lol and dunno if to believe there was a big bang lol
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Lundis
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ROFLOL at the video
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